Beth Sarim

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  Dan Brown to George Orwell. What would you do?

  by Slidin Fast in

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  2. friends

  an artis in the uk pulped 6800 copies of the da vinci code, reconstituted the paper, and reprinted as 1984 by orwell as above.

  i for one applaud the idea.

  what use for the publications would you find?.

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  Richard Dawkins to Stephen King!!
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  Jehovah's Witness' bid to be excluded from abuse inquiry dismissed

  by Tahoe in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  link to article.

  a legal bid by the jehovah's witness church to get out of being part of the royal commission of inquiry into abuse in care has been dismissed by the high court in wellington.. after nearly three years of behind-the-scenes legal wrangling to avoid scrutiny from the inquiry, the church applied for a judicial review in june.. at a hearing, held earlier this month it argued it was beyond the inquiry's scope because it did not operate institutions that cared for children or vulnerable people and the inquiry had uncovered no evidence of abuse in that context.. lawyers representing the inquiry argued that jehovah's witness elders - equivalent to ministers or pastors - exercised a level of control over the congregation that allowed them access to children.. the inquiry informed abuse survivors who gave evidence to the inquiry in relation to the jehovah's witnesses of the news this afternoon.. "we have received advice from the high court that none of the causes of action brought by the jehovah's witnesses has succeeded and the application for judicial review has been dismissed.

  the judge's reasons are not yet available, but are expected in the near future," the email to survivors, seen by rnz, said.. the church was the only faith-based institution in the country to legally challenge its involvement in the inquiry, although it had attempted to challenge its status in other countries where similar inquiries have also been carried out.. the inquiry said, in a statement, that the dismissal "means the royal commission can continue to investigate the jehovah's witnesses, and all other faiths, in accordance with the pastoral care approach we have been applying since 2019".. "reasons for the high court's judgment are not yet available but are expected in the near future.

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  I'm thinking its gotta be both of what you said.

  At this point,,the Borg can really ill afford another Australian Royal Commission like what happened a few years ago. At this juncture.
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  Has anybody ever heard of this in their local area

  by joe134cd in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  i heard of a jw wedding that:.

  (a)wasn’t done in a kh, and was performed by an elder.

  (b)the ceremony was done on a sunday.. i find this surprising for 2 reasons.

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  Is the Borg in it's final death throws?
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  Lloyd Evans Patreoff Pool - November 2023

  by DerekMoors in

  1. social
  2. humour

  let's get the fun started and put in our votes for how far down the pumpkin patch lord of the fries will fall in november.. for those keeping score, last month he started at 457 patrons, did some begging and managed to bump those numbers up to 478, but as of this writing he's down to 439.. so, how well do you think the grift will continue this month?

  let us know where you think he'll be on november 2. lucky number 420?

  will he drop back down below 400?

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  Hi Kimmy!!
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  Has anybody ever heard of this in their local area

  by joe134cd in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  i heard of a jw wedding that:.

  (a)wasn’t done in a kh, and was performed by an elder.

  (b)the ceremony was done on a sunday.. i find this surprising for 2 reasons.

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  ...then they go and sell the KH to a church or a bingo palace in some places.

  After its been dedicated.
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  Jehovah's Witness' bid to be excluded from abuse inquiry dismissed

  by Tahoe in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  link to article.

  a legal bid by the jehovah's witness church to get out of being part of the royal commission of inquiry into abuse in care has been dismissed by the high court in wellington.. after nearly three years of behind-the-scenes legal wrangling to avoid scrutiny from the inquiry, the church applied for a judicial review in june.. at a hearing, held earlier this month it argued it was beyond the inquiry's scope because it did not operate institutions that cared for children or vulnerable people and the inquiry had uncovered no evidence of abuse in that context.. lawyers representing the inquiry argued that jehovah's witness elders - equivalent to ministers or pastors - exercised a level of control over the congregation that allowed them access to children.. the inquiry informed abuse survivors who gave evidence to the inquiry in relation to the jehovah's witnesses of the news this afternoon.. "we have received advice from the high court that none of the causes of action brought by the jehovah's witnesses has succeeded and the application for judicial review has been dismissed.

  the judge's reasons are not yet available, but are expected in the near future," the email to survivors, seen by rnz, said.. the church was the only faith-based institution in the country to legally challenge its involvement in the inquiry, although it had attempted to challenge its status in other countries where similar inquiries have also been carried out.. the inquiry said, in a statement, that the dismissal "means the royal commission can continue to investigate the jehovah's witnesses, and all other faiths, in accordance with the pastoral care approach we have been applying since 2019".. "reasons for the high court's judgment are not yet available but are expected in the near future.

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  The Borg has always poised themselves as above from the law.

  Their ways are catching up with them
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  The "woman" in Genesis 3:15 ain't what the org says it is!

  by BoogerMan in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  (genesis 3:15) and i will put enmity between you and the woman and between your offspring and her offspring.

  (revelation 12:1) then a great sign was seen in heaven: a woman was arrayed with the sun, and the moon was beneath her feet, and on her head was a crown of 12 stars,.

  re chap.

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  Not sure where to upload this vid by the critical thinkers but here it is.

  He talks about the Borg not getting it right & making things up as they go.

  Here goes!!

  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=427qpJCj6Y0
  
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  JWLITE

  by Teddnzo in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  even elders can be part of the new jw lite brigade these days.

  they don’t need to go on door to door anymore and there is no requirement for anything really.. taking meeting parts is all dead easy you could turn up on the day with zero preparation because it’s all in the meeting workbook.. quarterly elders meetings are just old men having a good old natter just like old men do down the pub.. congregations could be likened to pubs or bars these days just without the drinks, those come at other times.. no need for territory maps, these almost went away with covid letter writing now they are extremely slow getting finished as those who still go door to door only do ten mins.. you could even voice your questions these days about things the gb say and then just say “we can’t be dogmatic we just don’t know”.

  i predict they will say this about 1914 soon..

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  Its been said that to determine is someone actually believes something is to take notice of their actions

  The eldubs can be come suspicious of a publishers sudden decrease of spiritual things like that of field serve-us and commenting at meetings.
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  How frequent is this among Jehovah's Witnesses

  by vienne in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  my grandmother, an immigrant from austria, was.

  two of my aunts, their husbands, both elders, various cousins and two of my sisters are witnesses.

  so is my grand uncle.

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  No. It wouldn't do any good if they do read this.

  We've heard AM3 at the very top with his very ignorant ""we are certainly NOT going to do that"",,in regards to their policies like that of disfellowshipping.

  I have no reason to believe PIMI elders or the vast majority of elders are any different.
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  JWLITE

  by Teddnzo in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  even elders can be part of the new jw lite brigade these days.

  they don’t need to go on door to door anymore and there is no requirement for anything really.. taking meeting parts is all dead easy you could turn up on the day with zero preparation because it’s all in the meeting workbook.. quarterly elders meetings are just old men having a good old natter just like old men do down the pub.. congregations could be likened to pubs or bars these days just without the drinks, those come at other times.. no need for territory maps, these almost went away with covid letter writing now they are extremely slow getting finished as those who still go door to door only do ten mins.. you could even voice your questions these days about things the gb say and then just say “we can’t be dogmatic we just don’t know”.

  i predict they will say this about 1914 soon..

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  "Do you believe that Jehovah is using the GB to direct his people today?"

  Any negative response will lead to a j.c. with a subsequent dfing.

  The Borg is getting meaner.

  If you,,avoid these conversations,,,especially when 2.eldubs want to meet with you.

  Even by thinking,,,having doubts,,eldubs use these tactics to "sniff" you out. To find "doubters".